From: Shekhar Kapur, Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001, To: Piet Hut : You Said : < Needless to say, IF linear time is not real, then a realization of that fact makes one a more effective player is alleged linear time; just like you can only be an effective film director if you realize that a film is not real -- which doesn't mean it is arbitrary. >>
I am going a different way : I still want to see (because I imagine everything as a picture) – time like a little canary in a cage : caged by us – therefore I look and say :

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From: Shekhar Kapur, 30 Jul 2001 09:17:47 EDT To: Piet Hut
I agree that all sages have said that we have to know who we are – and unless we break free form the concept of the self and Maya – we are never going to understand the unverse and our relationship to it. And again the word ‘our’ comes into it – what does that mean ? But how do I get out of that gradually. Do I HAVE to come to that knowledge first – or can I go the other way

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30th July, from shekhar < < By the way, I'll try to keep future emails to much shorter lengths. Our dialogues will be most attractive if they contain at most a couple paragraphs at a time for each of our two voices, don't you think? >>

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Sunday 29th July : < < We should have a full session on SPACE
> and TIME, next time we meet. >>
> yes that would be great – but I like to continue this conversation on the
> email – becasue I can reflect upon all this in private moments – and
> would it not be good to ahve a record of our conversations ?

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i said
i could look after myself
and i lied
i said i did not need you
and i lied

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From: Piet Hut, 29th julu 2001, in response the following question from me :
“The past is imagined – but somewhat real – yes ? It happened – but ofcourse now exists in thought only – although physical ramifications of past actions are real – yes ? therefore from that point of view there is a reality ?”

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from shekhar to Piet : 28th July 2001 ” This very moment is ALL that is real” – yes I agree, – But for you, is that scientific theorey that is current – or is it from your buddhist exploration ?

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From: Shekhar Kapur, Sat, 28 Jul 2001
Piet :” All this is first experiential, only secondly theoretical.”
Shekhar : “OK – yes – I am trying to get to grips with three things in relationship to the moment, which is the only truth – agreed….. ”

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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001, from Piet Hut
“There is no begining and no end” And actually no middle either. Every event (contradiction) exists in eternty – so that theoretically the nothingness still exists.”

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but we have to go deeply into the question of what BEFORE means if time started with the big bang. I think the answer is that time has more aspects/dimensions than the linear clock-time. I think there is a primorial beyond-time that still has time-llike qualities, in fact may be the REAL time from which clock-time somehow borrows its existence. Again, we’ll have to talk……..

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