The Hadron Collider and the search for the ‘God’ particle

Scientists have named the so called ‘God’ particle as the most elusive particle in existence. It is the particle that scientists need to explain the fundamental connection between that which is illusory and matter. Between anti matter which no one can find or state, and matter which you can touch and measure to your great comfort. One , in theory, unable to exist without the other. The known is only made possible by the unknown.
Perhaps the scientists are looking for something that is elusive in its very nature, so elusive that it has a duality. It is both there and not there at the same time. That duality is the ultimate nature of the Universe, it exists and it does not, at the same time and in the same moment, and both are absolutely true realities, depending on your imagination, or depending upon the scientist’s case – their experiment,
whch in this caseis a 7 billion dollar experiment (the Hadron Collider) to define a duality as one or the other. It would be fascinating if they came up with a the God particle as it called. They will be one closer to exploring one of the dualities, but each time the scientists try and find a link between the dualities, it will always be elusive, for the link lies in the immense imagination of the Universe that we are part of and often forget, that connection is in it’s nature infinite, so how do we define it ?
look at this wonderful video on youtube if you have not already seen it – it is done by the CERT scientists – proving that do not spend all theri time pondering the theories of the universe !
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM
Often wondered why and how the concept of zero was never questioned in mathematics. It is the infinite number that makes mathematical equations possible, the theories of the beginings of the Big Bang possible, and yet it has no definable existence – it a ‘no number’ or an ‘infinite’ number’ depending which way your imagination turns. Incidentally, ever tried dividing something by zero ?

21 Responses to “The Hadron Collider and the search for the ‘God’ particle”

  1. udayachandran menon says:

    hello
    if infinity and duality in this universe can be defined by our imagination only what is the essence and meaning of reality.
    is it real, as the anthropic principle postulates, just because we as human beings exist now and here. then what is the absolute reality. if there is no absolute reality why waste billions of dollars on experiments when we can just ‘imagine’ it up.
    elucidate as bugs the bunny says.
    regards
    uday

  2. Koizen says:

    But everything in universe can have alternative…or origin…or parent…(duality)
    Now, the fun part is…how will those scientests find “God particle” when its not duality
    I think if they are hell bent on finding duality things..they wont get much into the matter…the whole thing is off…the whole search is on wrong assumptions that are unrealistic. They in fact must start with the only non-duality theory or else…nothing much of success there!

  3. ajayprabhu says:

    Hi,Shekhar
    Its true comphrending or understanding infinite is not possible for human beings.Black hole or Big Bang….

  4. brahmastra says:

    These scientists have some more births to go until their wisdom is upgraded to at least realize nothingess, before they live it, and the vanity of trying to define God as a particle or whatever.
    The great sages live that ultimate state every moment. As Nisargadatta Maharaj said about his state..it fluctuates between all and nothing. The ultimate is lived through unlearning. However, the by-products of these monkey experiments on earth feed the design of the future.

  5. brahmastra says:

    Anything that is found in this illusion is another illusion. The ultimate has no definition, the way to it is through the thread of the observer, not the observed.
    That is why the advatic (non-dual) teachings of Hinduism are priceless..because they are the only ones that provide constant energized direction to go within. Until then, all these monkeys, scientists, religious clowns, etc etc keep looking outside until someday they give up..but the design is kind enough to include that search process as a stepping stone..LOL

  6. Kalyan says:

    Shekar:
    The term God particle is a misnomer. Physicist Leon Lederman wanted to name is book “Goddamn particle” because of the elusive nature of this particle, as you have said, but censure issues made him to change to “God particle”. I work in a large nuclear physics lab in the US. As far as I can tell no body uses this term in our community. It is called ‘Higgs particle’ and if it is found it will tell us why anything around us have mass.
    And regarding the matter anti-matter, I think you got confused between anti-matter and dark matter. You said,
    ” Between anti matter which no one can find or state, and matter which you can touch and measure to your great comfort”
    We make anti-matter all the time in the accelerator, anti-electrons(called positrons), anti-protons etc. What we can’t find is dark matter which is not made of matter as we know it (it is not made of any of the known fundamental particles), although we know it exists from our observations.
    Sorry for being so strict about getting things right but I like the spirit in which you were talking about all these things.
    We can safely say that we are nowhere near understanding the God. It is a big mystery out there still!

  7. chhabi says:

    Mr Shekhar Kapur,Am I dumb?For me its simple.To exist,you have to be of matter.There is nothing without it.However,I believe that the supernatural operates like science in the world.When did time begin?It was always there.How large is the universe?There are no dead ends or exits.I don’t understand what you mean by the god particle.Nothing so far can tell me what was before time,always time.Only god can,if he spoke and it would be a new dimension.The supernatural one which might have its own laws.Humbly.chhabs

  8. chhabi says:

    Mr Shekhar Kapur,what do you mean by anti matter?Is it something at all or nothing.Humbly chhabs

  9. CHARANJEET SINGH LAMBA says:

    Dear Shekhar,
    Being true to your own instrinsic-Query and innate-Quest, please read the undersaid very precisely in pertinence to your affinity for same…
    a] There is No Anti-matter, because as a ‘Fear is element of a Courage’ similarly… The so-said antimatter is extrapolated as TITHONS which happens to be the element of Matter (find as said hereunder)
    b] It’s only the unifiability of TWO Opposites that makes ONE Conmplete… This One Complete is been symbolized by “O” which we all misologically address it to be called as Zero.
    c] As such, what is seen as Senses is one of the dimorphic-part called an Illusion / Objectivity / Being, whereas the other dimorphic-part beyond sight to be visioned as an Essence is Facticity / Meta-Subjectivity / Beingfulness.
    d] All the Studies & Sciences of Universal Fonds & Findings are been limited to Matter or All of Matter, sailing and prevailing around the conceptive Percept of “O” … may it be Biology ( Bi of “O” logy ) OR Binary ( Sci of “O” and “1” ) OR last not the least, the ATOM as 1% of “O” as Matter and 99% void and empty space (which is indeed full of Vibrational Energy descrbed hereunder)
    e] For further justice to your own Divine’Self, We all as HUMAN here on Mission to seek Spiritual Leap (Moksh : Soteriology), may contact me through e’mail of may visit me in person, but please with prior appointment only… THANKS… God Bless All, DIVINE.
    ================================================
    THE PURPOSE OF ‘LHC’ i.e. BIG BANG EXPERIMENT IS ONLY TO FIND AND ASCERTAIN ALL THAT WHAT IS BEEN SAID AND ASSERTED HEREUNDER … AS A HEURISTIC DELVES BEING ENTRUSTED BY DIVINITY-@-WORK ON MY HUMBLE SELF … AN VIRTUE OF ARCANE PRUDENCE BESTOWED ON ME…
    ================================================
    Cosmic Efficacy & Tithonicity : TITHONS : Qauntum Energy …
    … in togetherness, is an imponderable and a sempiternal process
    where ‘TITHONS’ are host of an interminable interactivity
    being the genesis for all of the Piezophotonics [Photon at Work-in Progress]
    formating all In-formations and Vibrations as ‘Quantum Energy’
    to pervade ubiquitously all over Macrocosm unto Microcosm
    extrapolated as ‘Cosmic Efficacy and Tithonicity’
    ================================================
    Quantum Energy is an Ontological study for the subtlety of an imponderable but an exquisite World of The Infinite’ Finites as the Atomic Entities, being substantial and elementary products of Quantum Soup & Chaos i.e. a meta-subjective Extants [generally addressed as S’particles]. All these Extants offer to be a host of an interminable inter’activity amongst themselves to orient and ordinate an Orderliness as a Cause to ensue into a Effect, with a further cyclicism of prolific happenings to land itself unto All of Creation. Work-in-progress at sub-quantum depths determines an arcane conferments for one to gain learning and attain knowledge as to how…
    “The Energy exists in a discreet and exquiste units of the Vibration being the genesis for / by / of the imponderable In-formations which is extrapolated as TITHONS. It is an imponderable phenomena beyond all that we know by a scientific awareness named as Quantum Electrodynamics and Quantum Chromodynamics.
    TITHONS … are indeed the Thermal-Valluity, the progenies i.e. emanation of the Thermo’Dynamics of Stars and Stellars in common parlance what we happen to call as ‘Theory of Fusion and Fission Continuum’
    TITHONS are the Para’Beings formating All of Creation, being they the building constituents for the building blocks i.e. Hadrons & Bosons ; Quarks & Gluons, creating their Permutation & Combination as an In-Forms to ensue into and unto all of allied and varied Atoms, through a progressive journey assigned by Piezophotonics, in soup and chaos of Quantum Energy pervaded all over ubiquitously encapsulated and encompassed in domain of COSMIC EFFICACY AND TITHONICITY. TITHONS are elements for FOUR Principles of Cosmicsim [ Cause & Effect Continuum] whose productivity is invested to Working of Photons, indeed they being as HEAT : ELECTRIC : LIGHT : TITHONIC.
    These TITHONS in their version of being Potential HOST as a Power, as a Role’Physics for any action of proactivity at a Sub-Quantum Beingness of an Extant, is what called as COSMIC EFFICACY ” An Element of CAUSE ”
    In parity to same, these TITHONS in their version of being a HOST of Valency as a Role’Chemistry of/for/by an interminable inter’activity amongst the Quantum Soup & Chaos, is what called as COSMIC TITHONICITY ” An Element as an EFFECT ”
    One does gather to incultate a productive mean & imbibe a measure to understand the Science behind and beyond as to…
    “How the Positrons are at work-in-progres being the genesis of the High Energy Photonic Discharge -and/or- the Photons at work-in-progress being the genesis of a electron-positron annihilation as Positronic Discharges”
    …all-in-all a cyclic principle that rules the axiomatic design behind the Orderliness of Cosmicism ; Theory of Cuase & Effect Continuum, which in a refined version of applied understanding is been extrapolated and exalted as “Cosmic Efficacy & Tithonicity”
    Further, in compendium it can be said in common parlance yet in scientific genre… Quantum Physics & Energy is the Know’Process for the World in plenitudinal myriads of Sub-Quantum orientations and orderliness, that are the hosts of a sempiternal process of actionary, reactionary and inter-actionary activities, playing a great and grand, subtle & exquisite COSMIC Phenomena of “Quantum Soup [attraction] & Chaos [excitations]” amongst the entities like, Bosons : Hadrons : Quarks : Gluons : Positrons : Photons : Electrons : etc… all being the progenies of TITHONS.
    Regards and Greetings …

    CHARANJEET SINGH … { gnosiologsit : exegete : astral scientist }
    cs.astralscientist@gmail.com

  10. Shekharji, in the larger scheme of things, aren’t we all God’s particles? Always working towards the illusions of life, plural in how we react to the environments that bear us, and always colliding with one another in our existentialist attitudes to life. Like matter and anti-matter, our minds seem to exist in transient states of duality, constantly struggling between spiritual and the material, good and the bad, giving or gaining, and living or dying – a reflection, I must say, on binary systems of zeroes and ones which today run this world. And all this while being oblivious to the fact that we are but a speck in this universe. Somewhere our creators must be laughing their heads off about mankind’s quest for God particle. This must after all be just a moment in the function of time for them 🙂

  11. Shekharji, not to digress, but you may be aware about 5D conference happening in LA on October 4-5, 2008 – http://www.5dconference.com
    A couple of sessions I’m looking forward to: John Underkoffler’s “Bigger Bang: Colliding Science & Design” and John Tarnoff’s “Reality and Hyper Reality: Envisioning New Design Paradigms in CG Animation”.
    The conference was formulated by brilliant Production Designer Alex McDowell, and promises to be a fantastic gathering of movers and shakers in the scientific, design and entertainment communities. I hope to see you there, should your travels bring you to this part of the world! Regards.

  12. shivani singh says:

    hi shekhar. the more i indulge myself in science (being a medic) the more i feel that science will never give us any concrete answers. or it might seem that it has and then few years down the line it will all be proven wrong. this whole ‘god particle’ business—they might come up with some funda and then change it all again. why? because reasoning and experiments and research comes from the conscious/ logical mind which has its limitations.
    all this concept of duality is there in our scriptures and the rishis never did any experiments, they delved in the subconscious. take for example ‘zero’ which you mention. someone in india (forget his name) conceptualised it while meditating….and look at all zero has given us.
    i recently had a bit of a crisis about the medicine i practice as i feel, more and more, that all these drugs, tests etc are useless. all we need is an ayurvedic lifestyle and there will be perfect health.
    likewise i feel science should take a backstep from these silly scary experiments and chill, contemplate, help, share….
    aur haan. bahut dino se koyi kavita/ shayari nahin sunaye hain. withdrawal sa ho raha hai.
    love shivani

  13. AJ says:

    Science is for discovering, experimenting.
    God has to be realized, experience.
    All scientists realize the god but at much later stage when mental quest is quenched.
    The reality is :
    If You don’t see GOD in ALL
    You don’t see GOD at ALL

  14. brahmastra says:

    @shivani,
    That was Aryabhatta who got the mighty cool zero in play. And you’re absolutely right about modern medicine and pharmaceuticals. All those chemicals that are processed in labs are naturally present in most Ayurvedic herbs. It’s through the power of the inner Self that all those Rishis got such comprehensive solutions from nature. They did not have to sit and do stupid experiments to find solutions.
    However, modern medicine does have a place today because extreme conditions need extreme cure. A person who has no concept of a vegetarian diet or yoga or such a lifestyle to have a clear intellect prevalent in Vedic times when Ayurveda was formulated, will develop certain diseases that may be out of the domain of Ayurveda. Having said that, it’s never too late to get in that flow.

  15. Dearbloke says:

    hi Mr.Shekar ,
    I am Science graduate ,I dont know why every body calls something as God particle.Its a simple concept thats behind the LHC experiment its so simple,but i dont know why there are vague interpretion and imaginations.
    As usual i want to go to Basic,even if you are a science student or not,know that every thing in the world is made up of Atoms,and Atom is divided into Protons neutrons and Electrons,and these are the fundamental & basic elements of an Atom.We have reached upto this point and discovered these particles,but we dont know what these particles are made of.These particles,Protons ,electrons are smallest particles that have mass, so a proton or electron is the smallest mass,but we want to know what makes this Mass,so we need to look into whats there in a Proton or electron.
    To look whats in protons ,two protons are made to collide from opposite side at speed of light,that will result in smashing protons,which would bring out its basic particles which makes them.
    Hence we call this things inside Proton or electron as God Particle.
    To do this experiments LHC is used,there are many LHCs in the world,but for this experiment the largest of all was built.Building up of minute black holes is possible as the Protons collide and repulse succesively which leads to form a (ABSENT SPACES that are massless,[not vaccum], which are defined to be) Black Holes.Multiple Black holes occur and collapse in Nano to Micro seconds.

  16. kishore says:

    I like this 7 billion dollar experiment, because unlike what some may think this is actually an exercise in humility. This is man acknowledging they don’t know everything and trying to get a closer understanding of the universe and its beginnings. True, the understanding will be nowhere what some people are expecting from the experiment, but yet it is important to continue to understand the universe. I far prefer this to the ‘we know everything coz this book said so’ attitude of certain religious kinds…

  17. > CHARANJEET SINGH LAMBA ... [ astral scientist : gnosiologist : exegete ] ... says:

    Dear Shekar Jee,
    I do invite your acumen in pertinence to the posting been made hereinabove, under serial No 9. been captioned as : “Cosmic Efficacy & Tithonicity : TITHONS : Qauntum Energy” …
    I earnestly await the paramount and indubitable debates amongst the world’s best scientific leagues to lucubratively hone their perspectives and adept approach for the … “Macro Knowledge for the Micro Entity” with the arcane tools of the esoteric knowledge encrypted in A Holy Scripture of Dhan Guru Sri Granth Saheb Jee… A Reverend Scripture that Ordinates its start with a Divine Logos … EK’-OANG-KAAR … thereon offering in its lucubrated depths in great poetic form repeatedly, the meaning of a word KAAR : [a Formless, para-morphogenesis, asomatogenesis] which happens to be an element duely constructing the built of the AKAAR : [varied & allied Forms, Morphogenesis, Somatogenesis as Entities].
    At parallel lenght even the Divine Logos “OM’KAARA” and or “OM’KAAR” unfolds same encrypted answers, but in a different linguistic presents.
    Much more, Many Unique, Exotic Plentitudes can be irrefutably established for its accretion & accpetance at large amongst the Learned Leagues, provided a proper message is been carried with the substantial element to synchronise Meta-Physics AND Polymathics into a Divine’ ONE called as PARA’KNOWLEDGE ~ Knowledge of Consciousness ~ Knowledge of God ~ The God Particle…
    Last not the least …
    “The Only way to educatively address God as a God, is indeed only KNOWLEDFGE”
    “Alas …! The Human is the Source of Knowledge and God, both”
    Indeed, the Time Divine will assign its signature that what said hereinabove has to be a Divine Sycretism at its Best…

  18. > CHARANJEET SINGH LAMBA ... [ astral scientist : gnosiologist : exegete ] ... says:

    Dear Shekar Jee,
    I do invite your acumen in pertinence to the posting been made hereinabove, under serial No 9. been captioned as : “Cosmic Efficacy & Tithonicity : TITHONS : Qauntum Energy” …
    I earnestly await the paramount and indubitable debates amongst the world’s best scientific leagues to lucubratively hone their perspectives and adept approach for the … “Macro Knowledge for the Micro Entity” with the arcane tools of the esoteric knowledge encrypted in A Holy Scripture of Dhan Guru Sri Granth Saheb Jee… A Reverend Scripture that Ordinates its start with a Divine Logos … EK’-OANG-KAAR … thereon offering in its lucubrated depths in great poetic form repeatedly, the meaning of a word KAAR : [a Formless, para-morphogenesis, asomatogenesis] which happens to be an element duely constructing the built of the AKAAR : [varied & allied Forms, Morphogenesis, Somatogenesis as Entities].
    At parallel lenght even the Divine Logos “OM’KAARA” and or “OM’KAAR” unfolds same encrypted answers, but in a different linguistic presents.
    Much more, Many Unique, Exotic Plentitudes can be irrefutably established for its accretion & accpetance at large amongst the Learned Leagues, provided a proper message is been carried with the substantial element to synchronise Meta-Physics AND Polymathics into a Divine’ ONE called as PARA’KNOWLEDGE ~ Knowledge of Consciousness ~ Knowledge of God ~ The God Particle…
    Last not the least …
    “The Only way to educatively address God as a God, is indeed only KNOWLEDFGE”
    “Alas …! The Human is the Source of Knowledge and God, both”
    Indeed, the Time Divine will assign its signature that what said hereinabove has to be a Divine Sycretism at its Best…

  19. > CHARANJEET SINGH LAMBA ... [ astral scientist : gnosiologist : exegete ] ... says:

    Dear Shekar Jee,
    I do invite your acumen in pertinence to the posting been made hereinabove, under serial No 9. been captioned as : “Cosmic Efficacy & Tithonicity : TITHONS : Qauntum Energy” …
    I earnestly await the paramount and indubitable debates amongst the world’s best scientific leagues to lucubratively hone their perspectives and adept approach for the … “Macro Knowledge for the Micro Entity” with the arcane tools of the esoteric knowledge encrypted in A Holy Scripture of Dhan Guru Sri Granth Saheb Jee… A Reverend Scripture that Ordinates its start with a Divine Logos … EK’-OANG-KAAR … thereon offering in its lucubrated depths in great poetic form repeatedly, the meaning of a word KAAR : [a Formless, para-morphogenesis, asomatogenesis] which happens to be an element duely constructing the built of the AKAAR : [varied & allied Forms, Morphogenesis, Somatogenesis as Entities].
    At parallel lenght even the Divine Logos “OM’KAARA” and or “OM’KAAR” unfolds same encrypted answers, but in a different linguistic presents.
    Much more, Many Unique, Exotic Plentitudes can be irrefutably established for its accretion & accpetance at large amongst the Learned Leagues, provided a proper message is been carried with the substantial element to synchronise Meta-Physics AND Polymathics into a Divine’ ONE called as PARA’KNOWLEDGE ~ Knowledge of Consciousness ~ Knowledge of God ~ The God Particle…
    Last not the least …
    “The Only way to educatively address God as a God, is indeed only KNOWLEDFGE”
    “Alas …! The Human is the Source of Knowledge and God, both”
    Indeed, the Time Divine will assign its signature that what said hereinabove has to be a Divine Sycretism at its Best…

  20. Mehul says:

    You know, come to think of it religion is such a strong instituion, everything can be inprobable logic be addressed using religious metaphors.
    This LHC phenomenon can be compared to the solar eclipse phenomenon in the ” Nightfall” from Isaak Asimov, if you want I can send you the e-book..
    When you read it you realise the similarity between the 2, how religious leaders react to such things..
    I think life imitates science fiction a bit too much..
    email me if you want to read the book.(oh and remove this line man can’t handle too many people)

  21. Naveen.G says:

    I earnestly await the paramount and indubitable debates amongst the world’s best scientific leagues to lucubratively hone their perspectives and adept approach for the … “Macro Knowledge for the Micro Entity” with the arcane tools of the esoteric knowledge encrypted in A Holy Scripture of Dhan Guru Sri Granth Saheb Jee… A Reverend Scripture that Ordinates its start with a Divine Logos … EK’-OANG-KAAR … thereon offering in its lucubrated depths in great poetic form repeatedly, the meaning of a word KAAR : [a Formless, para-morphogenesis, asomatogenesis] which happens to be an element duely constructing the built of the AKAAR.Waiting for the greatest achivement that can man have in his victorious era.But it is better to leve the universe alone,Never let her take revenge over man.Recent article tells that the great TSUNAMI was a warning to man and now if he is to challenge the whole universe,then this universe will definitely beat us.So think twice and act.Hopping for better results.

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