Faith, Prayer, Mythology,

๐Ÿ™‚ says :”i am surprised that you put mythology above PRAYER and FAITH !”
faith, prayer, mythology gods and goddesses are all ways to keep going beyond your sense of the individual self – they enable you to break out of the prison of individuality, the prison of the mind, and allow something much deeper inside you to connect to something far more expansive. More expansive emotionally, more expansive instinctually , more expansive spiritually, and more expansive creatively.
We call that being in touch with expansiveness an awareness of the universal self, of being in touch with consciousness, or even being n the presence of God. So being in CONSTANT touch with either Myth, or Prayer or Faith, almost with every breath is what I am talking about. That being n constant touch is what mystics have called the ‘state of being in constant and universal love’. And it is so important not to make this ‘being in constant touch’ become too specific.
For there is something ‘breeze like’ about the infinite. The more you turn it into finite ways and methods and laws, the more you try and make them logical, the more you look upon this as methodology, the more you are turning the potential, the constant whiffs of breeze, the ‘presence’, the attitude , the unknown emotional feelings of the spirit, into dogma and a set of rules, or a method. In those cases the very Myths you are using, the very faith and prayers you are using turn finally into rules, dogma, obsession and then excuses and weapons for destruction and conflict – as we see religious conflicts all over the world. Shekhar

11 Responses to “Faith, Prayer, Mythology,”

  1. godwin says:

    be: )

  2. :) says:

    hi shekhar…….
    what you are saying above is so true….i agree with you absolutely.
    i reacted to , ” when i wake up in the morning i reconstruct myself from the night before by delving deep into my mythology, not prayers nor faith. just mythology. ”
    the dogma and fanaticism you mention are so dreaded, really………all the world over. the people who gaurd religious institutions…….whether it be churches or temples or mosques…..are so dogmatic and somehow far from the piousness one would expect from people of God.
    hope you are well and doing good…..? take care!

  3. Horst Vollmann says:

    Letter to Shekhar Kapur 4/27/08
    Dear Shekhar:
    You have masterfully put into words what ails humanity today. “Being in constant touch” with Myth, Prayer or Faith in too specific a fashion has allowed the mutation of sound religious tenets into intolerant and narrow dogma and has helped to create sectarianism as an off-shoot. Furthermore, the so-called apostles of self-help have found fertile ground to put their interpretation of consciousness into commercially viable endeavors confusing gullible minds even further.
    Is there a divine master plan to make humanity see its errant ways via suffering and confusion to finally lead to universal love, the one that transcends all bounds of narrow precepts? We can only hope that the dark forces of destruction and conflict are conquered by this universal love before humanity has succumbed to the edicts of doom.
    Regards
    Horst

  4. kedar says:

    the most confusing part of the game is that we all see things similarly…hence becomes difficult to realize that its an illusion…
    kedar

  5. Zed says:

    >the more you are turning the potential, the constant whiffs of breeze, the ‘presence’, the attitude , the unknown emotional feelings of the spirit, into dogma and a set of rules, or a method.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqbQWxHIn4U

  6. Amit Singh says:

    Love is the only thing there.
    You have touched upon something very very important in life. We have to give up our woundedness to get there completely and completely and completely and completely. Our wounds should be washed by that light.
    Past hurts and traumas should go a way completely in it. It should be the only thing there. The darkness in the tunnel is you and me. That is the light, we are reaching for the light.
    When we get the light, we see nothing else but the light. The mystic knows that the darkness of the tunnel is right inside it, but he also knows that in the light he is complete.
    When he gives up his woundedness, he is complete with everything, and one with other things in the world. He is a holy man now, delivering people people from other problems of all kinds, and every time planting the seed of enlightenment in them.
    Love is the only thing there.
    Amit Singh

  7. Himanshu says:

    Dear Shekhar,
    I am not sure that I reconstruct myself each morning (considering I go to sleep around 3 and get up at 7:30 – I do write each night on postits what has to be done next day and that’s what generally defines my next day, or 4.5 hrs later) but I am to the most extent defined by faith and subconsciously by myth. I generally feel that I live a continuous life without any barriers of days, things just happening one after another, like a film rolling without any breaks with new scenes all the time.
    However to Shekhar’s line, “In those cases the very Myths you are using, the very faith and prayers you are using turn finally into rules, dogma, obsession and then excuses and weapons for destruction and conflict,” I never go so far as to take these to any extreme and am always open to new ideas and beliefs, which is what keeps me free. Like Shekhar said in his last post, I have also learnt to adapt to all cultures, considering that I have lived in 6 countries in the last 8 yrs, so I feel at home everywhere. I do carry a certain me, defined by faith and mythology, everywhere I go, just that it’s always changing.
    Like Aristotle said, “We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit,” so I feel that the most important thing is to find that deep inner desire of yours and continuously work on that, for that is you.
    Best Regards,
    Himanshu

  8. shivani singh says:

    hi shekhar. thanks for this. one can almost picture oneself connecting to that higher divine force by reading your post. isi ko kehte hain director’s cut! love, shivani

  9. sohini chattopadhyay says:

    Shekhar sir,
    I guess … MYTH, FAITH and PRAYER are three widely different words… understood and accepted differently. To me… What should strive most in an human is FAITH and the believe in none but oneself… Faith, faith ,faith in oneself is the key to realisation of the ultimate.
    thanks for letting us ponder over such seldom spoken terms.
    Sohini

  10. hi
    i think the purpose defines the thought or the action. what is the purpose of these complexities if the answers are always going to be ambiguous? is the questioning the purpose itself and if so, do the doubts that come out of them need to remain as ‘baggage’ that always keeps overiding the positive nature of all action in everyday practical living?
    isnt it easier and probably more useful to be ‘semetic’ in this quest for the truth that helps you live life happily?
    please advise.
    regards
    uday

  11. hi
    i think the purpose defines the thought or the action. what is the purpose of these complexities if the answers are always going to be ambiguous? is the questioning the purpose itself and if so, do the doubts that come out of them need to remain as ‘baggage’ that always keeps overiding the positive nature of all action in everyday practical living?
    isnt it easier and probably more useful to be ‘semetic’ in this quest for the truth that helps you live life happily?
    please advise.
    regards
    uday

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